WHAT WOULD GLASGOWS “NO DEAL” MEAN?
WHAT WOULD GLASGOWS “NO DEAL” MEAN?
First, no one wants “no deal” but it remains a real possibility. Why? Because we cannot agree a whole host of outstanding issues : comparators or presumed grade changes, WCD, the value of NSWP, Interest, injury to feelings or just simply because they don’t agree or don’t have enough money, despite their promises. We have made Lots of progress but are nowhere near agreement yet. We cannot ignore the fact that “no deal” could happen.
If “no deal” happens this is the council officers current position:
1. They will defend the 37 hour rule and say it was justified
2 They will defend all the levels and payments of NSWP admitting its discrimination but say it’s justified discrimination (and yes that is possible)
3 They will deny that any job done mostly by women is of equal value to any job done by higher paid men - even if they are currently on the same grade (the officers say as no jobs are currently validly rated as equivalent, all jobs must re prove they are of equal value and they say none are, a position they will maintain at tribunal on Thursday )
4 They will seek to separate out GMB and non GMB cases at tribunal in February saying Digby Brown pled claims are worth less. They will also argue that UNISON claims were out of time as they were submitted too long after the first Cordia transfer. (They know there are cases against this but they want to test it on appeal)(note - they are only raising these arguments if there’s no deal)
5 They will argue that no claims can go to remedy whilst they still defend NSWP
6 If remedy is permissible, then it’s only for ex manual workers as the council does not accept that any of the ex apt&c jobs are of equal value to ex manual male jobs even if they subsequently rated them the same under WPBR.
7 Even for those with remedy the council says the statutory interest rate is too high because they would have to pay too much interest.
8 The council says none of the women are entitled to Injury to Feelings because they only discriminate on pay and only against women (actually the legal position at the moment) (we think that’s wrong)
9 The council will then defend NSWP next summer but they won’t tell us on what grounds until forced to do so.
10. Even if they lose on NSWP they claim that those that don’t currently receive any NSWP will still not be entitled
11. They do not admit that any of the changes made by Cordia were discriminatory,and even if they were, Labour was justified in making them. They will defend these changes in tribunal in the summer.
12 EDC although discrimination was justified. They will defend Labour’s EDC programme in the summer.
13. Even if they lose all those arguments they will delay as much as possible until the ET independent expert finds against them and that’s accepted by the ET (IN SEVERAL YEARS TIME)
14. If they lose any of these arguments they reserve the right to appeal.
15. Even if they lose they won’t have enough money and they won’t seek financial support from Holyrood.
16 If the claimants dont accept their “offer” it will be the greedy representatives fault. They offered what they could afford and demanding more is either unreasonable or greedy or both.
The councils position is that they will discuss these issues in negotiations but they will make no concessions on liability and if we don’t agree a deal they will fight all these issues in tribunal. Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed and if nothing is agreed everything will be fought back in tribunal.
As far as I can tell this all has the POLITICAL ENDORSEMENT OF SNP. Susan Aitken won’t meet us or override the officers.
So when politicians say they “stand with the Glasgow Women” this is what they mean.
DESPITE THIS we are trying to do the best for everyone and are seeking a deal.